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Polygamist Mafia: Escaping The Kingston Clan

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Although the mainstream Mormon church abandoned polygamy over 100 years ago, many splinter groups across Utah still practice plural marriage. One such group is the Kingston Clan, known to members as The Order. The Kingstons live in Salt Lake City and run their religion like a secretive business empire. VICE meets Joe Robinson, a young man banished from The Order and trying to build a new life around his true passion: being a magician. WATCH NEXT: The Mexican Mormon War: http://bit.ly/25O3utU Click here to subscribe to VICE: http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE Check out our full video catalog: http://bit.ly/VICE-Videos Videos, daily editorial and more: http://vice.com More videos from the VICE network: https://www.fb.com/vicevideo Like VICE on Facebook: http://fb.com/vice Follow VICE on Twitter: http://twitter.com/vice Read our Tumblr: http://vicemag.tumblr.com Follow us on Instagram: http://instagram.com/vice Check out our Pinterest: https://pinterest.com/vicemag
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Zamantungwa Khumalo (1 day ago)
your so brave
Lugubrio MD (3 days ago)
where the fuck are the FBI rn
Racha Lahlali (3 days ago)
for all the people wondering he turned out pretty good. Major in finance and minor in maths at the university of utah, built a business doing magic tricks, which supported him financially and even got a scholarship after performing magic for an insurance board which helped him through college. He landed a great job at a bank in Salt Lake city. Pretty sure thats what we call a sucess story :)
brenda horn (3 days ago)
some of the comments make it sound like this kid was locked up in a room with a book for 20 yrs, they are schooled, and they are trained for farming and mechinical work and or factory and animal husbandry, crop planting, and other things to help run a cult, they have large productions going on that most people didn't notice for the last 50 yrs. one group here in ontario, armish they were, had a cocaine smuggling thing going on for more then 30 yrs before r.c.m.p. caught on, so go figure, and they dont use electricity they claimed, or drive, so how did they do it, who cares, crimes of humanity has always been carried out but people in the name of religion, for thousands and thousands of yrs, but this kid can get state to educate him and get him on the right foot because not all religions make you a bad guy, just brainwashed which being a good guy with training is what society wants and needs more of
Ezz eldin saleh (3 days ago)
Mormons are fucked in the head. That is why no one voted for Mitt Romney in the 2008 election
Moon Vixen (3 days ago)
"just like if you chose to be gay" - lol part of the first statement that dude said and you already know hes an idiot haha
Lisa Rivera (4 days ago)
what a beautiful Godly woman.To put herself into all this stuff. God bless her.
Jasmine Shelton (4 days ago)
This woman is an absolute angel... and no those aren't tears in my eyes 😢
Kathy Mac (4 days ago)
I don't care who marries who or does what in their lives. It's the way they treat people. The many other common abuses. Wonder what percent is f these kids are on welfare y know? Maikng all these kids they can't feed to grow up and be dependent on the rest of society just for survival. Sad
Morgan Black Crow (5 days ago)
Eew
Angela Chaka (5 days ago)
There's a difference between one choosing to be gay, believing oneself is happier being gay. Than forcing and brainwashing someone into believing it. Forcing someone to follow certain rules and condemning such person for wanting no part of it.
creator (6 days ago)
They don't even know what bigot means.
theresa dirocco (7 days ago)
Sad that religion is a breeding ground for human trafficking, and disgracing Jesus and what he stood for.
cazzik day (8 days ago)
157 siblings??? That’s insane overbreeding. No wonder the world is over populated! Even though we are already getting to the point that ‘only stupid people are breeding’.
Joy Wooldridge (9 days ago)
"just like if you choose to be gay" What? Gay is not a choice. How ignorant!
Jackie Brown (10 days ago)
There has got to be a person in salt lake that has the means to give Joe a good job and a fighting chance. C'mon.
Rivky Diamant (11 days ago)
They should do one on Lev Tahor. They are a cult that is an off branch of hassidic Judaism. They have run from Israel, US, Canada, and their leaders were recently arrested in Guatemala. There has been terrible abuse going on there, including, Physical abuse, isolation, separating families as punishment, and marrying off 12 year olds to 40 year old men. They have recently kidnapped two children from a mother who escaped the cult, when she had custody of them, resulting in their leader getting arrested. They are taught that they are the "Real Jews" and aren't allowed to eat any meat or poultry, or anything made by orthodox Jews, they aren't allowed to speak to ppl outside of their group, they stopped studying traditional Jewish texts and instead are only allowed to study their rabbis publishings. Their kids get no education what so ever, and the females need to wear a hijab from head to toe, with just the eyes showing, even the little babies.
Jamie Marie (11 days ago)
Pay to be in you’re own family?! F’ing sick. Whatever God they believe in-is not the God I know, the Bible knows, or Jesus knows or spoke of. Walk in the truth people. Stop forming these sad, fake ass religions and orders. They aren’t real, or realistic. Good for Joe, he followed his heart. That’s real. That takes guts, bravery and a real man to walk away from powerful people like that. Must have been absolutely terrifying. I’m so glad to hear that there are support groups, teams and families that will help people like Joe find a healthier and happier path to follow ♥️
Cat Neko Kotyonok (13 days ago)
Very sensitively produced. Well done, Vice!
Kay_bre (13 days ago)
After watching the R.Kelly documentary series, him and the Mormon’s have the same way of life.
AyouMike (13 days ago)
As I read all you guys replies I can’t express how hard it is for people to CHANGE their beliefs! Even if that’s against everything norm ppl think. All these kid are victims of PTSD more than likely.
Nikki mealey (14 days ago)
We need an update on this kid! Hope he’s doing well!
Picasso VVIX (14 days ago)
Poor kids... it's just as if they grew up with no father. My heart goes out to you SLC.. God bless
Hannah Smiles (15 days ago)
Joe is amazing! He deserves the best. Is there any updates about them ?
Raquel Stevens (15 days ago)
I just love herrr and what she's doing for those kids. They're going to be just fine ! ❤️
Diego Gonzalez (15 days ago)
This is absolutely sick... but does not represent most Mormons. I’m a catholic and child moldering priest don’t represent all of us. Religion can be such a beautiful thing. Sadly sometimes it used for profit and brain control. God Bless
Danielle McCormick (15 days ago)
Christine reminds me of Penelope from Criminal Minds lol
charlotte graham (16 days ago)
Ok: decriminalize polygamy. But NO KIDS ALLOWED. All members participating in these "Plural marriages" must be sterilized in order to prevent children from being born. It's the children that suffer in polygamy, either as child brides or as victims of their parents and other siblings (let's not forget the 'lost boys').
Bryce Alan Houston (16 days ago)
I don't wanna be that guy but....... This some ypipo shit lmao
Rachel_of_creation (16 days ago)
Joe is a hero of mine. I could only imagine the strength it took to be stared down by everyone you've ever known. He is someone I hope finds happiness in life
Lemon Lime (17 days ago)
Let’s press that reset button for Utah.
JustinB_blackpink,BTS (17 days ago)
This is why my dad takes me to boxing, to fight for myself.
Panda Escarlate (17 days ago)
White people are crazy
Quinta Brown (18 days ago)
Incest is disgusting and puts people at risk! Lock all of those men up!!! Manipulative and nasty Caucasians!! I wish joe the best
snugbug (19 days ago)
I'll say to the young man that people outside of the morman church (not just the family who made the break themselves), care VERY much how you've suffered and understand and wish you happiness in life. Stand strong against what's hurtful. You'll make it !
GeneralKizENT (19 days ago)
Guy at 5:51 “What the fuck have I gotten myself into?”
GeneralKizENT (19 days ago)
Guy at 5:51 “What the fuck have I gotten myself into?”
perfectpitchtodd (19 days ago)
I find it to be a bit strange that many are against polygamy, but they are perfectly OK with polyamory.
Summerdandelion1798 (19 days ago)
This shows that no matter what shitty background you come from, you have the ability to choose to be good or evil. I am glad that the son knows how disgusting the practice is. I wish documentaries would stop showing serial killers past to justify their evilness, no! they 'chose' to be evil.
mockerfab4 (20 days ago)
Wow, less then 2 mins into this and I really feel for the guy. He obviously realizes now how dysfunctional his family life was. Probably growing up he had no clue, but seeing how the rest of society views polygamy and incest he sees now how very wrong and twisted it is.
paul t (20 days ago)
This girl at 4:15 should have specified which "church" she was talking about. People are confusing this group with the Mormons, they are NOT!! It clearly stated that this group broke off from them.She's talking about her reformed or reorganized church. The Mormon church DOES NOT require any of the things she's talking about whatsoever. I've grown up in the Mormon church and I'm now 51 years old. Required to have a baby every year, or to be skinny? Uh no.
Doof Doofins (21 days ago)
10:35 nobody chooses to be gay, you can choose to inbreed. Difference is that inbreeding is harmful to the children who is being born of inbreeding.
Severus Murray (21 days ago)
Lonely? Wanna see your family? That’ll be 5k. Oh and being gay is a choice. Idiots.
A I (21 days ago)
Do they file taxes and collect for each kid?
Rose Bell (22 days ago)
All I can think about is all the incest going on. That's disgusting!
GABOS (22 days ago)
this is why aliens don't talk to us
Jessica Vernon (22 days ago)
Vice, please do an update.
EpiCookie Kingdom (22 days ago)
As someone who grew up in a polygamist family, he has my empathy. It really is a nasty thing to grow up with.
Luke • (23 days ago)
I’m heart broken and enraged and I feel like helping but I really don’t know how to help. Someone please leave a comment if you know how to spread the word to get these children help.
Luke • (23 days ago)
Let’s get together and liberate all those children. I have bullets for all the “men” who believe it is okay to do this to other humans... this is America! How the fuck are we letting this happen?
BDoubleA (24 days ago)
This pisses me off sooooooooo much. These people are left with scars, physically, mentally, and emotionally. It's unjust and inhumane.
Derrek Dickerson (24 days ago)
Yeah, the Clan vilifies homosexuals are perverts and sinners, but the Kingston Clan rape and molest children, force kids into hard labor as duty to the Clan and religion. They money launder, control business in Salt Lake City when the Utah Legislature know full well what's going on. As long as the Utah Legislature get their backdoor profit, they'll turn a blind eye to any crime as long as you're white and pay them off. That's Utah.
Nate Thompson (25 days ago)
I have no faith in humanity
cbkm0 (27 days ago)
Seems like cults are bad, not polygamy. Is their evidence of less extreme polygamists leading to negative consequences. No need to argue that clans like the kingstans shouldn't be allowed, but I can't help but feel their should be a middle ground to allow people to marry how they choose and still criminalize cults or families that are negligent in some way like the kingstans seem to be.
Elegantly Wasted (28 days ago)
A fee to come back? That’s insane
I Don’t Know Shit (29 days ago)
Man this shit almost made me cry.
Meester Incubi (30 days ago)
where's the punisher when you fuckin need him.
Liberty Scott (1 month ago)
What brave inspiring young people. There is so much better out there for them. As for the men in the clan, they are clearly dangerous, bigoted and sexist. Breaking someone's jaw, extorting money out of grieving people, shunning them from their own loved ones, with holding medical aid putting a pregnant woman in serious danger, neglecting your role as a father so you can pop out another 100 babies, putting those unborn babies in danger by inbreeding, the list goes on. It's all wrong and sick.
Erica (1 month ago)
I'm so happy for that kid. He seems so much more himself. Or at least content.
Sean dagod (1 month ago)
1 FATHER AND OVER 100 KIDS! IMAGINE WHAT HIS CHILD SUPPORT WOULD BE! LMAO😂🤣😅 AND TURN AROUND AND MAKE THE CHILD PAY YOU!!! THATS SOME BALLS ON THIS DUDE!!!!!
Jausha Bakkas (1 month ago)
"polygamy is not about choice. when you are adult, sure, people can make their own choice. but they are have childern, their childern didn't choose to be born in very very big family, if you have that many childern how parent can be emotionaly invested with their childern and how their husband can emotional invested with each of his wife, it's no way to be done" retweet
Lanora Ruiz (1 month ago)
I think the reason for the bill is the children really. The girls are bound to it and the boys are kicked out often because the older men want to keep all the girls to themselves. There are so many young girls married off to gross old pedophiles, sorry but if you sleep with a child under 17 or 18 you're a pedophile.
Tim Tay (1 month ago)
The leaders of this cult need to at very least be castrated.
S L D (1 month ago)
Life's a painful business!
Mr Merk (1 month ago)
I’d love to get my hands on those so called men
Flaky Biscuits (1 month ago)
Polygamists be like, "Fuck all of y'all!"
T X (1 month ago)
Just remember, christians are a whole of a lot closer to this bullshit
Jeneviel Cudao (1 month ago)
He bareback f**ked his own sister?
Fat T (1 month ago)
they run las vegas politics and own all the land in florida that disney is built on huuuummm.Mit romney trump florida ?
6214silenttt (1 month ago)
He should go BACK and have 164 KIDS sounds like FUN.
Vannesa Park (1 month ago)
Hope he is happy
My Dingus (1 month ago)
McPoyles! Got to keep the bloodine pure!
Jessica Tan (1 month ago)
When your father guilts you into returning home, but at a price of $2000-5000.
420 420 (1 month ago)
catholic church, mormons, muslim... doesnt matter if they want money its corruption, which jesus does not approve of. read the scripture at home if u believe
robert ellis (1 month ago)
I'm praying for you Joe andany lds to Know the One True God/ Jesus who Created all life and He Loves You and never forces you and if People are following His Word from the Holy Bible never should either and no one can kick you out of God's Church , I pray you to have eyes to see and ears to hear the Truth
h. mark33 (1 month ago)
"just like if you chose to be gay" im rolling my eyes right out of my head here
hmmm hmmm (1 month ago)
"Just like if you 'chose' to be gay" excuse you, you inbred little fuck you don't choose to be gay you're born that way dumbass little fuck. You don't get a say, you probably fucked your sister. You are a disgusting creature, go die.
Ruth Brent (1 month ago)
I think his experiance is the same choice as my choice to leave my father's emotional abuse. I know how it feels to be torn from your family. I have not seen my father since April and I have only talked to two family members. I know they likely are on my father's side based on how manipulative he is. Either that, or they think my mother pulled me to her side. I hate my mother and I miss my blood but I felt like I was being crushed and I wished that at 15 I had a father who said I love you more than once and family who saw me without my father bringing me to them. I wonder is that Male kid feels as I do. He shows similar symptoms that I exhibit.
Jenna22 winning!! (1 month ago)
Most of these men are in politics and most of the women are on welfare. Funny hun?
Felicia Xoxo (1 month ago)
These ppl got problems omg
lid the kid (1 month ago)
i just wanna give that guy a hug
Jay Counsil (1 month ago)
This is really happening in America?
Alana Lanigan (1 month ago)
I really dislike this woman. She is helping groups like the FLDS groups. “Respecting their choices” and providing food etc. Teaching them about stranger danger while knowing their leader is a dangerous peodophile!! Her heart is in the right place but give the support when THEY LEAVE don’t support them while they stay. Be kind yes.. but show the light
Rachel Jamison (1 month ago)
My great grandmother was raised in a similar environment but ran away at 16 and went to San Diego. She met my great grandfather who had run away from the Amish and they started a shoe repair business together. Whenever I watch something like this I think "but for the grace of God go I" and wonder how many of these people are my extended family.
Leah Marie (1 month ago)
Can I just hug him?
The Don (1 month ago)
A single Mom with 9 kids?!?!?!? The guy that married her is the literal definition of blue pill.
Rah Torres (1 month ago)
WTF!!!!!
akis sakis (1 month ago)
really bitch??? 10:36 so you say you should have your right of choice (to be a polugamist) like gay people CHOSE to be gay. this is gonna sound stupid and childish but.. go into that salty lake and drawn yourself, will ya? its been over 2 years that this story aired. wonder how is Joe...Joe i really hope you're doing great man.
Terry Gunn (1 month ago)
the child beating goes on and on daily for the girls and molestation
Ammon Jenkins (1 month ago)
Is this some kinda joke. U retards just keep contradicting ur selves. First u say he left the order then u start talking about how he was kicked out. The Pricilla says her parents were forcing her to do crap but when they interviewed her dad then he said he told her she could leave and that’s her choice. This is written worse that that escaping polygamy comedy tv show.
Abel Guillen (1 month ago)
Can I get a McWhooper with a side of diabetes fries. That's My Order
Drasiella of Darnassus (1 month ago)
All this trouble because some cunts decided to have personal harems. Gather the evil ones, hang them publicly. Set the innocent free.
polarjeep04 (1 month ago)
I missed the mafia part
Louise Kirk (1 month ago)
brainwashed all of them plain and simple EVERYONE who is apart if religion who believes these stories that were written by men to control men are all apart of cults they are make believe stories to control the masses it shocks me how people try and justify their religion.. they are all bullshit...a virgin gave birth oh please mary was getting freaking and having sex with someone else, Jesus died and came back to life hmmmm more like some conman was tortured and went into a coma and came to a few days later...and us humans were not made by an invisible man it's called evolution, science
michael greene (1 month ago)
What in the incest?
Barry Stamper (1 month ago)
Irrefutable proof people are stupid ...
Choosenickey (1 month ago)
y'all!!! The first 3 minutes my mouth is on the floor omggggggggggg Final thought: This pisses me off soooo bad omg!! I sincerely hate folks preying on vulnerable people.. I wish death on all of the assholes who are putting folks through this. Happy Holidays :)
Frank Cerra (1 month ago)
Are the mormons educating them out there now a days or what? Geez its 2016 in this video?!? Holy moly
Malcolm X (2 months ago)
Is this America?
Noah Jones (2 months ago)
Although he is not exactly erudite, he was able to reason his way out of his stifling inherited beliefs. Perhaps with increased access to the wealth of information he can become a well spoken and reasoned advocate for laws that deconstruct these exploitative hegemonies.

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